2016 North American Championship Discussion

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DN 5449:
A word on process:  IDNIYRA by-laws require that the site be sailed by a ranked sailor before selection.  We did discuss whether any Wisconsin or Minnesota sailors could sail Thunder Bay, if the snow forecast goes away.  Without that 'ranked sailor' assessment choosing Thunder Bay would be problematic, unless it was the only choice.  Rice lake, however attractive, is equally problematic.

Sometimes By Laws need to be revisited and adjusted.This one in particular makes no sence to me.In this day and age when we have YouTube videos,Internet access ,photos that can be sent .
Having said that anyone from MN or WI is more then welcome to come up and enjoy the conditions we have here right now.The way the Canadian Dollar is now you can get a nice Cold Canadian Beer for about $1 US.
Untill then I think I will just continue to enjoy the great conditions we have here.

Ken Smith:
There once was a list of who has entered on ICE.idniyra.org but I cannot find it now. 

KB [us5219]:
the ice.idniyra.org list is still there, I think.  You need to scroll all the way down on the registration page to see it.
It is important to note that it does not include Mailed entries, and most of the European entries.
My total count right now is at 61 -which is pretty good I think.
Below are the Sail numbers registered as cut and pasted off of my spread sheet - please let me know if yours is not there and should be.

G55
G551
G597
G666
G679
G737
G936
H467
KC3786
KC5457
KC5514
P71
US1277
US1313
US1610
US183
US216
US2360
US294
US3
US3433
US3535
US3700
US3705
US4032
US4137
US4148
US4155
US4203
US44
US445
US4487
US4512
US4638
US4691
US472
US4775
US4868
US4882
US4911
US4925
US4926
US5053
US5156
US5166
US5219
US5224
US5350
US5358
US5369
US5415
US5420
US5430
US5432
US5435
US5469
US5486
US5633
US60
US637
US65

KB [us5219]:
I have not found any mention in the By-Laws regarding the use of ice reports from ranked vs. non-ranked sailors.  I may have missed it as my eyes and mind aren't as sharp as they once were.
When collecting our reports, we have to weigh in on the accuracy and reliability of the report.  Traditionally, a "ranked" sailor had the "cred" to give reports.  Now it is important (as Madge points out) to recognize any report from a sailor who has large regatta experience and is armed with video, pictures, GPS tracks to verify course size, and of course verifiable weather forecast reports.   Additionally, they need to verify Launch facilities, make sure the event is legal and if necessary get permits, and finally find and negotiate with a hotel for our group to stay, and for comp or reduced rate rooms for the Race committee members.
Finally, they have to be able to accept that after going through these efforts, there still might be a better venue, and we may choose theirs as a "back-up" site or not at all.
This is what our scouts do.  If you have good ice please keep us in the loop.  We will consider all reports, even from "unranked" sailors as long as they give me the means to back it up!

DN 5449:
"Finally, they have to be able to accept that after going through these efforts, there still might be a better venue, and we may choose theirs as a "back-up" site or not at all."

Yes that is part of of the deal,but just maybe there could or should be some reward or compensation for Scouting ice.Maybe a free one year membership to the Class or a reduced entry fee to the Event? I know a thank you is nice ,but hard to expect some people ,who have in the past driven 100+ miles out of there way in order to find ice for all to play on.
(Not saying this applies to every case,like if someone is sailing on there home ice and just reporting it)

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